Transcript for #hcmsanz chat – 6 February 2011

Wordle: #hcsmanz chat - 06 February 2011

NOTE: All times are listed using Pacific Standard Time (PST) GMT-08:00 

8:59 am hcsmanz: Welcome to tonight’s #hcsmanz chat
9:00 am hcsmanz: #hcsmanz Let’s get started with some intoductions – tonight’s moderator is @ej_butler
9:01 am ej_butler: #hcsmanz Hi all, I’m a healthcare IT professional based in Brisbane
9:01 am dr1337: #hcsmanz Hi I’m a medical student at UMelb and p/t programmer. Have an interest in medical and public health informatics.
9:04 am hcsmanz: #hcsmanz Tonight’s topic is “Social Media tips to engage health professionals in sharing knowledge with ease”
9:06 am YHPO: Kishan from Darwin here. Public servant at the center for disease control. Disc: all tweets are my own opinion. Hi all #hcsmanz sorry late
9:07 am Zimbarama: just submitted my PhD in health informatics looking as SM and health information Dunedin NZ #hcsmanz
9:08 am DrPieter: Hello #hcsmanz people. Anaesthetist from Melbourne.
9:09 am ej_butler: #hcsmanz I look at Social Media as being part of a Professional Development Network
9:09 am drmarcustan: Hi I’m a medico with an interest in Health IT & innovation from Perth #hcsmanz
9:10 am fidouglas: I’m a british med student currently doing health psychology research into osteoporosis in Auckland. #hcsmanz
9:12 am KeirLiddle: #hcsmanz Hello, I’m not from your parts but interested in expanding health research contacts in that neck of the woods.
9:13 am YHPO: I look at SM as part of the New Public Health approach. #hcsmanz
9:13 am CollectiveAct: RT @hcsmanz: #hcsmanz Tonight’s topic is “Social Media tips to engage health professionals in sharing knowledge with ease”
9:13 am CollectiveAct: RT @hcsmanz: #hcsmanz Let’s get started with some intoductions – tonight’s moderator is @ej_butler
9:15 am ej_butler: @fidouglas @Zimbarama great to see some NZ tweeps on the #hcsmanz chat – appreciate that it’s quite late for you!
9:16 am dr1337: RealTime Social Media + Geolocation = Ultimate disease surveillance system! (If you can filter out all the crap to get a good SNR!) #hcsmanz
9:16 am Zimbarama: @ej_butler @fidouglas its a pleasure to be on here.. #hcsmanz
9:17 am YHPO: RT @dr1337: RealTime Social Media + Geolocation = Ultimate disease surveillance system! (If you can filter out all the crap to get a good SNR!) #hcsmanz
9:17 am Zimbarama: my questions is.. the sharing knowledge we are tlaking about is it between Drs or between dr and patient? #hcsmanz
9:18 am ej_butler: #hcsmanz @KeirLiddle thanks for joining in, all welcome πŸ™‚
9:20 am ej_butler: @Zimbarama based on the question raised last time around by @GPAG2011 we’re going to focus on our peers for this chat #hcsmanz
9:21 am Zimbarama: @ej_butler thanks, just trying to get the context, πŸ™‚ #hcsmanz
9:21 am ej_butler: @Zimbarama however, provider/patient knowledge sharing should not be overlooked – a good topic to cover in a future chat #hcsmanz
9:23 am Zimbarama: @ej_butler there could be a valid argument saying that patients are the drivers of SM use thus Dr’s need to also jump on board #hcsmanz
9:24 am ej_butler: #hcsmanz so does anyone have some suggestions on engaging others to use Social Media in their organisation?
9:24 am Zimbarama: as said in #hcsm chats there needs to be a way to show healthcare provs the benefits of using SM to share knwledge bet each other #hcsmanz
9:25 am YHPO: In the NT we constantly using teleconferences n info stagnates at diff levels. Staff complain of lack of communication. #hcsmanz
9:26 am YHPO: #hcsmanz firstly we need a policy that would encourage instead. The Gov 2.0 report was good but it lacks implementation.
9:27 am drmarcustan: I’ve had experience with internal wiki’s and tools like yammer for closed peer sharing. Otherwise twitter / FB / Linkin are staples #hcsmanz
9:27 am dr1337: @Zimbarama Depends on your SM platform. At 140 chars Twitter isn’t a very good medium to share complex information. #hcsmanz
9:27 am ej_butler: @yhpo agree, Social Media policies come up quite often during the #hcsmanz chats πŸ™‚ Some policies discourage rather than encourage.
9:28 am lewismal: Joining late- flurry of visitors. #hcsmanz
9:28 am Zimbarama: @dr1337 True, but SM is not restricted to Twitter, theres a plethora of other SM tools availble #hcsmanz
9:28 am GPAG2011: #hcsmanz is yammer the solution?
9:29 am ej_butler: @drmarcustan thanks, those are good tools to use within your own organisation #hcsmanz
9:29 am YHPO: @drmarcustan #hcsmanz internal wiki’s are the way to go at least for now.
9:30 am BrionyJane: I’m late – hi everyone! #hcsmanz
9:31 am drmarcustan: The usual change Mx tools still work -create urgency, find influencers & evangelists, transparency of benefits & wins from using SM #hcsmanz
9:31 am ej_butler: @GPAG2011 Yammer does have potential – it’s being used in WA Health #hcsmanz
9:31 am Zimbarama: i think what needs to happen is Healthcare providers need to be educated on the tools available #hcsmanz
9:31 am GPAG2011: #hcsmanz perhaps we need to replace a form of media with social media.
9:32 am YHPO: @BrionyJane Hi, we just started w T1. #hcsmanz
9:32 am Zimbarama: by letting them understand the tool, they are more likely to use them, did anyone see Greys anatomy this week? #hcsmanz
9:32 am ej_butler: @yhpo @drmarcustan Wiki’s have been quite well received within my organisation #hcsmanz
9:33 am BrionyJane: @ej_butler @GPAG2011 We are trialling @yammer where I work but having issues getting everyone on board with it. #hcsmanz
9:33 am ej_butler: @lewismal @BrionyJane Thanks for joining in πŸ™‚ #hcsmanz
9:33 am Zimbarama: the show indicated a classic case of misunderstanding the technology and that is what maybe happening in real life #hcsmanz
9:33 am ej_butler: @BrionyJane yes, you mentioned that in one of the previous chats… maybe offer some incentives? #hcsmanz
9:34 am BrionyJane: @ej_butler @yhpo @drmarcustan How are you using the wikis? For projects, for info management, for dissemination of information? #hcsmanz
9:34 am lewismal: @zimbarama I agree we need to educate peers about the tools. I’ve been thinking how to demo tolls & uses to peers in public health #hcsmanz
9:34 am drmarcustan: Integrating all the tools into one “dashboard” is useful too otherwise having to check different tools is time consuming. #hcsmanz
9:35 am ej_butler: @BrionyJane started using a Wiki for knowledge sharing because everything was being sent around by e-mail in my team #hcsmanz
9:35 am YHPO: Agreed! Educate more ppl to generate more creative use and maybe not replace but reinforce SM for now. If we start replacing=revolt #hcsmanz
9:35 am GPAG2011: #hcsmanz anyone researched % of clinicians using PDAs? Mobile Docs with iPhones could be a good target.
9:36 am lewismal: Twitter comes alive in compo with other tolls like blogs. #hcsmanz
9:36 am ej_butler: @BrionyJane e-mails are not the best way to share info – they might get deleted/archived & they can become out-of-date #hcsmanz
9:36 am BrionyJane: @ej_butler which tool are you using? #hcsmanz
9:36 am Zimbarama: @lewismal maybe through continued education? #hcsmanz
9:37 am BrionyJane: RT @YHPO: Agreed! Educate more ppl to generate more creative use and maybe not replace but reinforce. If we start replacing=revolt #hcsmanz
9:37 am BrionyJane: @YHPO So true #hcsmanz
9:37 am ej_butler: @BrionyJane Microsoft Sharepoint is our Wiki host – not flash but does the job #hcsmanz
9:37 am dr1337: @drmarcustan Interestingly, if Google Wave were still alive, it would be the perfect “dashboard” that you speak of #hcsmanz
9:38 am YHPO: @BrionyJane @ej_butler @drmarcustan disseminating research info but yet to launch. Angst re privacy. #hcsmanz
9:38 am BrionyJane: @ej_butler Very true but people I work with love email and really fight to keep using it. Need to show value of other tools #hcsmanz
9:38 am drmarcustan: All RT @BrionyJane: @ej_butler @yhpo How are you using the wikis? For projects, for info management, for dissemination of info #hcsmanz
9:38 am lewismal: @yhpo We need to show how to us tools and what they can be used for and address some pressing problems to win over new ppl. #hcsmanz
9:38 am ej_butler: @Zimbarama I think that the professional associations should encourage members to earn status points by proving use of Social Media #hcsmanz
9:39 am ej_butler: @dr1337 Ahh, Google Wave is still alive… will need to dig around again to find out what’s happened to it #hcsmanz
9:39 am lewismal: @zimbarama I’m thinking little bits of inservice/informal learning. #hcsmanz
9:39 am YHPO: #hcsmanz dissaponting to say this buy many will refuse as it breaks down old school power imbalances in the workplace.
9:39 am GPAG2011: RT @drmarcustan: All RT @BrionyJane: @ej_butler @yhpo How are you using the wikis? For projects, for info management, for dissemination of info #hcsmanz
9:40 am Zimbarama: @ej_butler i think thats the best way to do it #hcsmanz
9:40 am YHPO: @lewismal agreed but the ppl at the top need to buy into this. Easier for non gov agencies. #hcsmanz
9:41 am YHPO: RT @ej_butler: @Zimbarama I think that the professional associations should encourage members to earn status points by proving use of Social Media #hcsmanz
9:41 am lewismal: I’m also selling my peers on the course I did last yr. It starts again March 7 http://facilitatingonlinecommunities.blogspot.com/ #hcsmanz
9:41 am dr1337: @ej_butler Last I heard, Google open-sourced the entire codebase for Wave. They’re relying on FOSS folks to pick up where it left #hcsmanz
9:41 am Zimbarama: @ej_butler @dr1337 google wave failed in all that it promised #hcsmanz
9:42 am ej_butler: @BrionyJane maybe they could try posterous? blog post via e-mail! #hcsmanz
9:43 am ej_butler: @lewismal that’s a great idea, have had mixed success with this myself. Does help to show that we’ve got finger on the pulse πŸ˜‰ #hcsmanz
9:45 am ej_butler: @lewismal Have tried 1-on-1 sessions and offered to run small group sessions targeting specific issues that people want answers to #hcsmanz
9:45 am drmarcustan: Must admit I never got the hang of Wave & it was buggy RT @Zimbarama: @ej_butler @dr1337 google wave failed in all that it promised #hcsmanz
9:45 am BrionyJane: RT @ej_butler: @dr1337 Ahh, Google Wave is still alive… will need to dig around again to find out whats happened to it #hcsmanz
9:46 am ej_butler: @yhpo Organisational Culture can be a stumbling block. You just need to keep trying until you find the receptive ears πŸ™‚ #hcsmanz
9:47 am BrionyJane: @lewismal That course looks v interesting – will look into it! #hcsmanz
9:47 am corbetron: @hcsmanz hi all. v late to the chat. need support from admin to allow early adopters to drive change from below. provide access! #hcsmanz
9:47 am dr1337: @Zimbarama @ej_butler It was buggy @ start Google Wave like any “beta” app actually got quite good and to a usable state at the end #hcsmanz
9:48 am GPAG2011: #hcsmanz maybe we should target universities and training coordinators?
9:48 am dr1337: @dr1337 @Zimbarama @ej_butler Wave was too ambitious at its time when web-app frameworks weren’t quite as mature as they are today #hcsmanz
9:49 am drmarcustan: @BrionyJane @ej_butler using an airline analogy email is point 2 point whereas SM and wiki’s are more hub & spoke! Benefits in both #hcsmanz
9:49 am ej_butler: @dr1337 Google Wave technology available in Google Shared Spaces http://bit.ly/h0rdAh #hcsmanz
9:51 am ej_butler: @GPAG2011 While it would be great to get the healthcare professionals of the future on board early… #hcsmanz
9:51 am YHPO: @GPAG2011 I think it would a productive effort #hcsmanz
9:51 am ej_butler: @GPAG2011 Think we’ll have our hands full getting the current professionals on board #hcsmanz
9:53 am ej_butler: @corbetron great suggestion David, mentioned earlier in the chat that Social Media Policies need to enable #hcsmanz
9:54 am Zimbarama: @ej_butler @GPAG2011 maybe it needs to be intergrated into med school programs? #hcsmanz
9:55 am drmarcustan: Based on their complete lack of interest at the NDF not holding my breath RT @GPAG2011: #hcsmanz wish AGPN used social media!
9:55 am ej_butler: @Zimbarama hmm, have a read of this http://bit.ly/dY8fLb #hcsmanz
9:55 am corbetron: @Zimbarama med school programs already full to the hilt. but, good place to encourage. need solid real world examples to convince #hcsmanz
9:56 am GPAG2011: #hcsmanz let the uptake be organic. Go to the students who have grown up with SM. Let them drive the uptake. They will be the change agents.
9:57 am corbetron: @corbetron to convince administrators of benefits – potential or otherwise. cut through IT red tape. trial various SoMe options. #hcsmanz
9:57 am ej_butler: @GPAG2011 I like the idea πŸ™‚ #hcsmanz
9:57 am corbetron: RT @GPAG2011: #hcsmanz let the uptake be organic. Go to the students who have grown up with SM. Let them drive the uptake.
9:58 am Zimbarama: @ej_butler have read that, it was done here @otago BUT doesnt talk about training in the use of SM it talks about guidelines of use #hcsmanz
9:59 am Zimbarama: @corbetron disagree, it needs to be added, just as much as how to use a computer needs to be added to the med prog #hcsmanz
10:00 am YHPO: RT @ej_butler: @GPAG2011 I like the idea πŸ™‚ #hcsmanz
10:01 am drmarcustan: Vocational exposure, integration & training when on prac better RT @Zimbarama @ej_butler @GPAG2011 maybe it needs 2 B in med school #hcsmanz
10:01 am Zimbarama: @GPAG2011 totally agree!! #hcsmanz
10:01 am ej_butler: @Zimbarama fair point, focus more on “acceptable use” rather than how to use it #hcsmanz
10:01 am Thinkbirth: ?@6_minutes: era of mobile diagnostic radiology iPhone/iPad imaging/diagnosis apps for MRI/CT scans http://tinyurl.com/4rpy258? #hcsmanz
10:01 am corbetron: @Zimbarama with grad entry course i reckon there’s no way to get it in curriculum. worth a try though. hard to convince them. #hcsmanz
10:02 am ej_butler: Hard to believe that the hour is up for tonight’s #hcsmanz chat
10:03 am dr1337: By the way, Social Media websites are blocked at my hospital #hcsmanz
10:04 am Zimbarama: @corbetron maybe it needs to be a round during the TI year, that they all need to achieve crdits in the use of SM #hcsmanz
10:04 am hcsmanz: Thank for participating in tonight’s #hcsmanz chat. Transcript will be available on our blog a little later.
10:07 am drmarcustan: @Zimbarama nice idea but not a new one @corbetron is right most med school curricula are shrouded in massive politics & inertia #hcsmanz
10:07 am Zimbarama: @ej_butler thanks for a great session. #hcsmanz
10:10 am lewismal: Thanks all. Sorry I missed so much but this is a bad time for QLDers. Life intrudes. #hcsmanz
10:19 am ronny_621: RT @YHPO: #hcsmanz dissaponting to say this buy many will refuse as it breaks down old school power imbalances in the workplace.
10:21 am corbetron: @Zimbarama i like that idea. credits in SM use for T1. #hcsmanz
10:21 am corbetron: @hcsmanz thanks all. sorry to be so late. enjoyable as always. #hcsmanz
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