#hcsmanz chat transcript: 13 March 2011 – “Using Social Media to connect with Digital Natives on health issues”

Tonight’s chat focussed on using Social Media to connect with Digital Natives on health issues.

What are Digital Natives? A generation “born digital” – those who grow up immersed in digital technologies, for whom a life fully integrated with digital devices is the norm.

Links shared during the chat are available in this bit.ly bundle – http://bit.ly/fybMAd

NOTE: All times are listed using Pacific Daylight Time (PDT) GMT-07:00

9:02 am hcsmanz: Welcome to tonight’s #hcsmanz chat
9:04 am hiablog: @hcsmanz I’m an apology for tonight’s #hcsmanz but I’ll read your tweets later with much interest! πŸ™‚
9:04 am hcsmanz: Tonight’s #hcsmanz topic – “Using Social Media to connect with Digital Natives on health issues”
9:04 am hiablog: RT @hcsmanz: Welcome to tonight’s #hcsmanz chat
9:04 am ben_hr: RT @hcsmanz: Welcome to tonight’s #hcsmanz chat
9:05 am hcsmanz: #hcsmanz let’s start with a roll call & some introductions…
9:05 am BiteTheDust: g’day all, Robbo – pharmacist from central Australia #hcsmanz
9:07 am hcsmanz: #hcsmanz tonight’s moderators are @BiteTheDust & @ej_butler
9:07 am EdwinKruys: Hi to #hcsmanz crowd. I’m a GP from rural WA.
9:08 am ej_butler: #hcsmanz Hi, I’m a healthcare IT professional based in Brisbane
9:10 am Ally_Jeanne: Hi to #hcsmanz. healthcare IT / government department professional in Melb
9:13 am BiteTheDust: a very small group tonight. Our topic “Using Social Media to connect with Digital Natives on health issues” #hcsmanz
9:13 am ej_butler: @Ally_Jeanne welcome to your first #hcsmanz chat Alison
9:14 am BiteTheDust: I have a feeling we won’t connect to digital natives until those teens grow and in positions to change the way we do things #hcsmanz
9:16 am Ally_Jeanne: #hcsmanz – what do we mean by digital natives… exactly πŸ˜›
9:18 am BiteTheDust: @Ally_Jeanne digitasl native – a teen who has grown with the internet as part of their everyday life #hcsmanz
9:19 am BiteTheDust: have to apologisae for tonight. Ed and Ben are otherwise engaged and I have a callout to attend to..small group tonight pls chat #hcsmanz
9:22 am Ally_Jeanne: #hcsmanz I guess that means gen Y then! I think that Gen Y – or digital natives are already connected and expect health to be online
9:22 am EdwinKruys: @BiteTheDust No worries. Great topic though #hcsmanz
9:24 am ej_butler: #hcsmanz would something like this Foursquare and MTV Team up for STD Testing http://t.co/rdqELq1work in Australia?
9:25 am Ally_Jeanne: #hcsmanz in rural WA do you have many indigenous patients and do they have access to internet?
9:26 am YHPO: Sorry I’m late, hi I’m kishan from Darwin #hcsmanz
9:28 am YHPO: RT @ej_butler: #hcsmanz would something like this Foursquare and MTV Team up for STD Testinghttp://t.co/rdqELq1 work in Australia?
9:28 am ej_butler: #hcsmanz Hi Kishan, thanks for joining. You might be able to offer some advice on tonight’s topic?
9:28 am YHPO: @ej_butler very interesting thanks for the link. #hcsmanz
9:30 am EdwinKruys: @Ally_Jeanne I’m working rural but not really remote… Most teens here have internet & facebook #hcsmanz (sorry forgot tag)
9:30 am YHPO: @Ally_Jeanne I have heard anecdotal evidence from Robbo and Staff frm AMS of regular usage. #hcsmanz
9:31 am ej_butler: #hcsmanz @Ally_Jeanne what about multicultural issues in the capital cities?
9:31 am YHPO: Top end indig youth are regulars in FB and YouTube #hcsmanz multicultural youth use it for organizational purposes too; events etc #hcsmanz
9:34 am EdwinKruys: @yhpo Do they engage in online health topics/discussions? #hcsmanz
9:36 am YHPO: Have been lookin unto BJ Fogg’s lab at Stanford. Persuasive Tech. That’s how health can connect w youth. Not just having a FB page. #hcsmanz
9:37 am YHPO: @EdwinKruys health is not an interest to them. #hcsmanz
9:38 am YHPO: @EdwinKruys but in saying that, we agree that health info provision is like slapstick comedy. There is no science, no design. #hcsmanz
9:40 am Ally_Jeanne: #hcsmanz so a more interactive approach? Something that monitors behaviour?
9:40 am YHPO: I my experience younger people are backing off when using persuasive messages. How do you think this should be avoided #hcsmanz
9:41 am ej_butler: #hcsmanz an interesting thought @YHPO Kishan. Would you mind sharing the link later?
9:42 am moyra4health: Have been lookin into BJ Fogg’s lab, Stanford. Persuasive Tech is how health can connect w youth. Not just having FB page. #hcsmanz #hcsmuk
9:42 am YHPO: @Ally_Jeanne that’s right, my best guess so far. The tech has to be persuasive not messages. #hcsmanz see Cialdini’s Principles.
9:44 am Ally_Jeanne: #hcsmanz I have never met a youth who enjoys being told what to do. In my experience they enjoy being heard – that can be done online
9:45 am lewismal: Sorry joining late . Hi all. #hcsmanz
9:46 am ej_butler: @lewismal Hi Mal, welcome – small group tonight #hcsmanz
9:46 am Ally_Jeanne: #hcsmanz I have participated in Depressionnet in the past and found people want an interactive forum… FB can give suggestive links to site
9:46 am YHPO: http://www.bjfogg.com/ Persuasive Technology #hcsmanz
9:48 am YHPO: @Ally_Jeanne FB is interactive too. Eg Farmville so health focus serious game is highly possible #hcsmanz
9:49 am myold1971: @EdwinKruys health is not an interest to them. #hcsmanz http://dlvr.it/K4pt1
9:49 am ricardon: thus getting around the old saying – children should be seen & not heard? “RT @Ally_Jeanne: #hcsmanz I have ne? (cont) http://deck.ly/~a6kmJ
9:49 am georgemargelis: #hcsmanz digital natives can be older than teens, men in 30s key targets for health intervention
9:49 am lewismal: @yhpo Agree @bjfogg looks very interesting. Thanks for putting me onto him earlier. #hcsmanz
9:50 am YHPO: I RT @EdwinKruys tweet as the hashtag was mispelt. Tweet on the poor quality of persuasive messages. Highly agree with you on this #hcsmanz
9:52 am EdwinKruys: @yhpo http://www.bjfogg.com/ Looks very interesting! #hcsmanz
9:52 am Ally_Jeanne: #hcsmanz I have enjoyed learning about ubicare… what are your thoughts about bringing a concept like that to Aus? link to follow…
9:52 am YHPO: Uni of Twente in Holland at Medicine 2.0 Conf were also hot on persuasive tech. #hcsmanz
9:53 am YHPO: The future will see public health medicine design and tech collide in a professional fusion #hcsmanz
9:54 am lewismal: Agree RT @yhpo: The future will see public health medicine design and tech collide in a professional fusion #hcsmanz
9:54 am ej_butler: #hcsmanz It looks like an “eco system” still needs to be developed?
9:55 am YHPO: @Ally_Jeanne just googled it. Thanks for the lead. #hcsmanz www.ubicare.com
9:55 am ej_butler: #hcsmanz if you’re after persuasive – what about using peer pressure in a positive way on something likehttp://imoveyou.com/ ?
9:56 am YHPO: RT @ej_butler: #hcsmanz It looks like an “eco system” still needs to be developed?
9:56 am BiteTheDust: apologies for being called away everyone #hcsmanz
9:57 am Ally_Jeanne: #hcsmanz I’d like to see public health medicine and technology and CAM to collide in the a professional fusion πŸ™‚ needs to happen
9:58 am EdwinKruys: @ej_butler Haha great stuff, may work for older gens as well #hcsmanz
9:58 am YHPO: @ej_butler that’s a great idea Ed. There is so much out there isn’t it. #hcsmanz
9:58 am corbetron: catching the tail end of #hcsmanz chat. sorry to miss it. again.
9:58 am ej_butler: @BiteTheDust no worries Robbo, thanks for kicking things off #hcsmanz
9:59 am lewismal: @ally_jeanne What does CAM stand for? #hcsmanz
9:59 am Ally_Jeanne: @ej_butler #hcsmanz there is something to be said about peer pressure – what are the challenges with something personal like health
9:59 am ej_butler: @corbetron Think we’ll run it a little longer tonight, it’s a small group πŸ™‚ #hcsmanz
10:00 am corbetron: this might be off topic, but seems that data visualisation and/of healthcare offers lots of potential. #hcsmanz
10:01 am YHPO: This years Med 2.0 Conf is at Stanford Uni. Would be great to go. #hcsmanz good presenters.
10:01 am lewismal: Some of my tweets tonight are being lost. If my gems of wisdom turn up late & out of context. don’t be surprised. #hcsmanz
10:01 am EdwinKruys: Government uses peer pressure in commercials re alcohol & driving – does it work? #hcsmanz
10:02 am Ally_Jeanne: @lewismal CAM – complementary and alternative medicine / therapies #hcsmanz
10:03 am Thinkbirth: Hi everyone, sorry to miss the discussion: caught this @lewismal @ally_jeanne CAM = Complementary and Alternative Medicine Malcolm. #hcsmanz
10:03 am lewismal: @edwinkruys Mostly social marketing works when done well. #hcsmanz
10:04 am YHPO: @EdwinKruys driving and smoking big success I think. What abt you? #hcsmanz
10:05 am corbetron: is the idea of peer pressure working within a model of fear? great talk on TED about health data vis and this: http://t.co/bbHzBe0 #hcsmanz
10:06 am Thinkbirth: @yhpo @EdwinKruys hmmm, I think the smoking message is going up in smoke; a young ‘indi’ in Canberra told me smoking is ‘cool’ #hcsmanz
10:06 am Ally_Jeanne: #hcsmanz I’d love to see work done that changes unhealthy thought patterns CBT does this – how can this be incorporated in Soc Media?
10:07 am YHPO: @corbetron i think its seen as fear but in reality a behav interv model known as “health belief model”. Only very well designed. #hcsmanz
10:08 am EdwinKruys: I always feel the message comes across better once past teen years… health is not a priority at younger age. #hcsmanz
10:08 am Thinkbirth: @Ally_Jeanne I reckon DBT is even better; comes from a place of ‘you are perfect as you are & you have 2 change’ what do you think? #hcsmanz
10:09 am YHPO: TEDx Maastricht webcast in Darwin #hcsmanz http://t.co/3KVz61g
10:10 am EdwinKruys: Sorry got to go – thanks all for the chat & will read transcipt + links later tonight #hcsmanz
10:10 am ej_butler: @EdwinKruys thanks for joining the chat Edwin #hcsmanz
10:10 am Thinkbirth: @EdwinKruys Edwin, you are right, but being ‘cool’ is important (very) how to get that association happening, I’ve been puzzling #hcsmanz
10:11 am lewismal: I’m really interested in a newly emerged model using fear- the Terror management health behavior model. . #hcsmanz
10:11 am ej_butler: @Ally_Jeanne some people might not want to share… #hcsmanz
10:12 am YHPO: @Thinkbirth @EdwinKruys Same here. How to make health and being healthy cool. #hcsmanz
10:12 am ej_butler: @EdwinKruys don’t think the message is being heard loud and clear by the younger crowd – binge drinking still a big problem #hcsmanz
10:12 am Thinkbirth: @corbetron David, I’m wondering what you mean by this? data visualisation etc? #hcsmanz
10:12 am lewismal: Link to journal abstract terror management health model #hcsmanz http://ow.ly/4dnsn
10:13 am ej_butler: RT @EdwinKruys: I always feel the message comes across better once past teen years… health is not a priority at younger age. #hcsmanz
10:14 am Thinkbirth: @lewismal that sounds scary Malcolm, what does that mean? #hcsmanz
10:14 am Ally_Jeanne: @lewismal #hcsmanz – tell me more because that idea ‘scares’ me
10:14 am ej_butler: @yhpo @Thinkbirth @EdwinKruys gamification? #hcsmanz
10:15 am Thinkbirth: @lewismal thanks for the link πŸ™‚ you come up with some fabulous information #hcsmanz
10:15 am lewismal: How to make not tanning cool and its impact. http://psp.sagepub.com/content/30/10/1347.abstract#hcsmanz
10:17 am Thinkbirth: @lewismal I’ll need to get the full article, I don’t really ‘get’ what it means from the abstract #hcsmanz
10:17 am Ally_Jeanne: @ej_butler @EdwinKruys #hcsmanz at any age people can think in ways that help them – perhaps health starts there?
10:17 am corbetron: @Thinkbirth thinking of ways of engaging with digital natives – data vis to convey complex pathophys + epidemiology could b useful #hcsmanz
10:18 am lewismal: @ally_jeanne #hcsmanz We are human animals that know we will die. This makes us mega fearful.
10:18 am Thinkbirth: @ej_butler @yhpo @EdwinKruys I had to quickly google that word Ed! Yes, that’s sounds like the right idea #hcsmanz
10:19 am lewismal: @ally_jeanne #hcsmanz We cope with fear of death by putting the fear into our unconscious and by self esteem and culture.
10:19 am BiteTheDust: @Ally_Jeanne all my patients are indigenous. Most have access to community media centre for internet. few have own computers #hcsmanz
10:20 am BiteTheDust: @EdwinKruys @yhpo #hcsmanz my mob don’t use internet for health but for social and family connection. photos on media cente, facebook
10:21 am BiteTheDust: @yhpo in my experience you have to earn your trust and be available when they are ready whether person, phone, internet #hcsmanz
10:21 am ej_butler: #hcsmanz Danah Boyd (@zephoria) has some great research on youth culture and Social Mediahttp://bit.ly/eQmd2B
10:21 am Thinkbirth: @lewismal well, there’s an amazing list of interesting & frightening papers to read & explore! Thanks (I think!) πŸ™‚ #hcsmanz
10:21 am BiteTheDust: RT @georgemargelis: #hcsmanz digital natives can be older than teens, men in 30s key targets for health intervention
10:22 am lewismal: Stuff that reminds of death gets us reaching for our self esteem & defending our culture. This proven in 174 RTCs now. #hcsmanz
10:22 am YHPO: @BiteTheDust @EdwinKruys “Well being” in that case. #hcsmanz
10:23 am corbetron: @BiteTheDust @EdwinKruys @yhpo soc n family connections could provide opps for health messages. particularly on FB w the ads. #hcsmanz
10:24 am lewismal: An amazing list of interesting & frightening papers, links, blogs to read & explore! Thanks all #hcsmanz
10:24 am corbetron: RT @lewismal: Stuff that reminds of death gets us reaching for our self esteem & defending our culture. This proven in 174 RTCs now. #hcsmanz
10:24 am Ally_Jeanne: @ej_butler @zephoria Great – thanks – I will look up and read – #hcsmanz
10:25 am ej_butler: #hcsmanz we might start wrapping up soon… has turned into an interesting extended discussion tonight
10:25 am BiteTheDust: RT @lewismal: Link to journal abstract terror management health model #hcsmanz http://ow.ly/4dnsn
10:26 am Thinkbirth: @ej_butler @zephoria wow, her work looks fascinating. thanks for that link! Gosh, the resource sharing is rich tonight, thanks πŸ™‚ #hcsmanz
10:28 am Thinkbirth: @ej_butler Thanks Ed and everyone! Good night now. Sweet dreams of good, healthy connections! #hcsmanz
10:29 am ej_butler: #hcsmanz don’t forget that the links shared & the transcript of tonight’s chat will be available from our blog. Look out for the tweets!
10:30 am ej_butler: #hcsmanz Thanks everyone for participating in tonight’s chat
10:30 am BiteTheDust: @ej_butler thanks Ed. sorry about ducking off but unavoidable out here. you are called you go #hcsmanz
10:30 am YHPO: RT @corbetron: @BiteTheDust @EdwinKruys @yhpo soc n family connections could provide opps for health messages. particularly on FB w the ads. #hcsmanz
10:30 am Ally_Jeanne: @ej_butler #hcsmanz great thanks for my initiation into social media – looking forward to more rich sharing thanks all for particpation πŸ™‚
10:30 am lewismal: I have hunch that terror management model explains troll behavior on FB on tribute pages to when deaths are high profile &young. #hcsmanz
10:31 am YHPO: Good nite everyone, thank you. #hcsmanz
10:32 am corbetron: just as an anecdotal afterthought, my experience is that ‘digital natives’ are generally not that tech savvy. not power users. #hcsmanz
10:32 am Thinkbirth: @yhpo @EdwinKruys I agree Kishan, very disappointing, also lots of young ones around here where I live are smoking, that’s worrying #hcsmanz
10:32 am Thinkbirth: @corbetron I’m not sure what that would look like David, can you explain more? #hcsmanz
10:33 am YHPO: @corbetron True that! They dabble with it but not more. #hcsmanz
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